Systems & Complexity: Yaneer Bar-Yam - Episode 21

July 13, 2018

In this episode of the Blue Frontiers Podcast you’ll be able to hear how Yaneer Bar-Yam and his team at the New England Complex System’s Institute, NECSI, predicted financial crisis of 2008 and the Arab Spring one year before it happened. Yaneer Bar-Yam, President of one of the most influential complexity science centers in the world, speaks with our Seavangelesse, Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, about their shared view on diversity coming from the study of complex systems and the implementation of self-organized mechanisms of decision-making in human societies. 



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Real Estate on the Blockchain: Oleksii Konashevych - Episode 20

July 10, 2018

Do you want to know how to register a property on the blockchain, hold a private key to that property, yet allow its transpass in case of decease of divorce? Find out in this episode of the Blue Frontiers Podcast, where our Seavangelesse, Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, speaks to Oleksii Konasevych about e-governance, property registration on the blockchain, tokenization of infrastructure, law and code.



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The Pacific Cryptocurrency Connection and Origin of Money: Daniel Nagy - Episode 19

July 4, 2018

Daniel Nagy has a PhD in Information Theory and is an expert on data compression and encryption. He's also an Ethereum developer working on swarm (decentralized storage protocol) and an advisor to Blue Frontiers. Join Nathalie and Daniel as they discuss cryptocurrency, economics, decentralization, and more.




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Innovating in Governance with Innovative Zones: Mark Lutter - Episode 18

June 28, 2018

Do you want to find out why can’t you text 911, what makes Dubai so special or what makes Disney such a safe place? Find out in this episode of the Blue Frontiers Podcast, where our Seavangelesse, Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, speaks to Mark Lutter, the Director of the Centre for Innovative Governance Research.



0:54 Introduction to Mark Lutter

1:31 The Centre for Innovative Governance Research

2:54 World Free Zone Organization Conference

4:18 Innovating in governance and the net impact of innovating with Special Economic Zones

6:58 Multi-use zones and the limitations or single-use zones for achieving sustained growth

8:25 Determining and expanding the size of zones

9:15 Adapting regulations for attracting businesses

11:00: Neom, new city in Saudi Arabia

11:50 Chances of succeeding of seasteading

14:00 The importance of not putting all eggs in one basket

15:05 How to create zones

16:55 Getting the legal autonomy from a host country

18:09 Using existing trade routes and infrastructure

21:00 Educating about zones

21:56 Creating legitimacy by working with governments

22:45 The role of the Centre for Innovative Governance Research

24:10 Economic Zones for refugees

24:35 New city projects

23:30 The main challenge to creating zones

26:50 The role of the Centre for Innovative Governance Research

27:25 Special Economic Zones, charter cities

28:50 Governing with alternative governments

39:35 Proprietary cities

34:50 Natural territory monopolies

35:05 Private water supply

36:50 Disney World’s autonomy

38:18 Dispute resolution mechanisms

39:56 There is no an ideal form of governance

42:44 You can’t text 911… Creating incentives for entrepreneurs

45:55 Smart cities are not enough to spark growth rate…

46:52 Politics gets in the middle of innovating with drones and biotechnologies

49:55 How seasteading can propel innovation

52:28 Mark’s ideal location for a seastead






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Granting Legal Personhood to Natural Systems: Kara Dentice - Episode 17

June 21, 2018

In this episode, Kara Dentice, a Maori descendant from Te Ureeera, speaks with our Seavangelesse, Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, about granting legal personhood to natural systems. Kara has been involved in two legal processes in New Zealand that gave legal personhood to the Whanganui river and the Te Urewera national park. In this talk, Kara explains why we should change our relation with the environment, going from an extractivist logic, to a logic of coexistence.



0:55 Introduction of Kara Dentice

1:55 A rooster interrupts Kara and Nathalie

2:18 Reframing the relation with the environment to coexistence

4:50  The placenta and mother earth in Maori culture

7:03 The Maoris, land, language and identity

9:55 Taxing farmers for the CO2 emissions of farming cows

11:15 Kara is sweating

11:35 Co-governance of natural resources

12:28 Guanagui River and Te urewera. A river and a national park that owns itself

14:14 Law is nothing but a piece of paper

14:57 Governments want to control

17:06 Can I sue a river that owns itself?

16:50 Can a river sue me?

22:55 Deterritorialization of personal identities

24:30 Kara’s relation with Te ure wera and his family’s tribes

28:30 Automatic translators

29:05 Keeping an indigenous culture alive

33:25 The Mana

32:25 The film Moana and its translations

34:39 Granting legal personhood to natural systems

43:20 Changing our relation with the environment

49:50 Closing




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Happiness, Wellbeing, Natural Assets & Blockchain: Mark Anielski - Episode 16

June 12, 2018

In this episode, Mark Anielski, author of The Economics of Happiness and The Economics of Wellbeing, speaks with our seavangelesse about his books. The conversation touches points such as the limitations of indexes, such as GDP and proposes to measure and back the wealth of communities with natural assets and how we could tokenize this.

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0:00 Introduction to Mark Anielski

0:35 Mark’s Book: The Economics of Happiness

1:00 Backing the wealth of a community with natural assets

1:35 Can money buy happiness?

2:00 Relation between GDP and happiness

3:40 Happiness is underestimated when measuring value

5:17 Ecological economics (Marc is a forest economist)

6:05 Mark’s socratic method to teach students about economics

7:01 Economics of wellbeing

7:55 How to measure happiness

8:45 Measuring Happiness in Arue in Tahiti

10:00 The island of Tahiti is shaped as a Mandelbrot Set Fractal

11:00 Te aroa ai rahi (verify)

12:00 Life and time in the Tahitian culture

13:00 No words for time in the Tahitian language

14:00 Time as an asset. We live 7.050 hours on average

15:35 : LIFE IN TIME

17:10 Money is nothing but a social invention

21:55 Using time as a currency

22:55 Bitcoin and time

22:25 Happiness and nature in French Polynesia

25:21 Reciprocity in Rapa Nui (Easter Island)

26:05 Sharing in the Inuits  community

26:52 The link between dancing, spontaneity and happiness

27:55 Ho pono pono

29:02 Mark Anielski: the most dangerous man in Tahiti

29:40 Backing natural assets on the blockchain

34:00 Designing bio-inspired systems

37:12 Greetings in parts of the world

38:14 How many hours has Mark lived?

41:10 The monetisation of natural resources

42:35 Rains of diamonds in Jupiter

43:35 I love you




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Bonus Episode: Robert Viglione, co-founder of ZenCash, Sits Down With Randy Hencken of Blue Frontiers

May 31, 2018

Robert Viglione 2nd degree connection2nd Co-founder of ZenCash, President of the Zen Blockchain Foundation at Zen Blockchain Foundation sits down with a chat with Randy Hencken.

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The Decentralist Manifesto: Max Borders - Episode 15

May 29, 2018

This episode was a complete surprise for our seavangelesse. The chat was recorded at the Startup Societies Summit in Washington D.C. Max Borders, co-founder of Voice and Exit, and guest of this podcast, speaks with our seavangelesse, Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, about all her favorite subjects: complexity science, chaos, entropy, dissipative systems, heterarchies, seasteading and polycentrism. The chat also focuses on concepts that are at the core of Max’s interests; panarchy spiral dynamics, holacracy, mutual aid, decentralized, distributed systems and the social singularity. This is the title of Max´s latest book, which is also discussed in this improvised conversation.

0:00 Introduction to Max Borders
1:25 The End of Politics
2:48 Mutual Aid
4:45 Holochain
5:30 Distributed Income Support cooperative, DISC
6:30 The solution: Neither the market nor the state
11:10 Polycentrism, polyarchy and panarchy -and seasteading
13:45 Biological systems and ecosystems
15:35 Holacracy
17:30 Heterarchies: from Newtonian models to bio-inspired ones
22:30 Entropy, chaos theory, complex systems and dissipative structures
29:00 The values of the post-ideological world
31:00 Nature is anarchic
32:30 Emergent nested hierarchies
34:05 The Social Singularity
35:20 Stuart Kauffman, self-organization, evolution and critical transition points
38:15 Spiral dynamics
45:30 The future of governance
46:45 Closing; The Decentralist Manifesto




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Bonus Episode: Randy Hencken Talks with JP Thor

May 25, 2018

In this episode, Randy Hencken chats with JP Thor, CEO and Co-founder of CanYa, technology enthusiast, aeronautical engineer, former Royal Australian Air Force pilot, early Bitcoin adopter and Ethereum ambassador.

Twitter: @jpthor_
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The Values of ZenCash and Blue Frontiers: Robert Viglione - Episode 14

May 22, 2018


The guest of this episode is Robert Viglione, co-founder of ZenCash. In this friendly conversation with our Seavangelesse, Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, Robert speaks of the long-plans of ZenCash, its partnerships and, of course, seasteading. This chat is a one hour conversation about why and how the value of ZenCash align those of Blue Frontiers and of seasteading.



0:00 Intro of Rob Viglione

0:26 How is ZenCash relevant for liquid democracy models of governance in seasteading
3:44 Professionalization of blockchain
5:22 ZenCash’s company departments  
6:55 Rob’s life as an academic
8:31 Why the rejection towards the blockchain space
10:13 Why Rob loves seasteading so much
11:11 Rob’s prediction about the future of seasteading
12:00 How the values of Seasteading and Blue Frontiers match the values of ZenCash
12:54 Floating Island Project in French Polynesia
13:35 Once you go crypto, you don’t go back
14:31 Governance through uses of blockchain on seasteads
16:17 Rob did the first Bitcoin transaction in Afghanistan
18:33 Exiting and a post-ideological world
18:59 Decentralized governance brings security
22:13 Why reducing complexity makes no sense
24:30 Inequalities and decentralisation in crypto projects and the world
28:37  Why nation-states are violent systems that don’t work
31:57 Selective transparency; the future
33:52 ZenCash’s public Trello Roadmap
36:50 Open source or not open source?
42:06 Evolving systems to create multiple DAOs competing
43:40 ZenCash and Seasteadings are the best friends in the world
44:38 First Tahitian Seasteading Gathering 2017
46:35 The effects on a world with seasteads
47:49 Ideal properties of a community and the importance of humility
51:38 Hero Engine World, Ethland, Blue Frontiers and Rob’s projects
53:59 Keep Calm &…
55:02 The Varyon, the cryptocurrency of seasteads
57:21 “our parents’ generation was all hippies…but they were poor hippies. We now wit cryptocurrencies can afford to make this stuff a reality. We are going going to create a more peaceful happy clean world”
59:20 How to join Blue Frontiers community on Telegram



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