The Blue Frontiers Podcast
Cindicator and Blue Frontiers’ Strategic Partnership: Yuri Lobynstev - Episode 13

Cindicator and Blue Frontiers’ Strategic Partnership: Yuri Lobynstev - Episode 13

May 18, 2018

This episode of the Blue Frontiers Podcast is the first of the Varyon Series. The guest is Cindicaor’s Co-Founder and CTO, Yuri Lobynstev. In this episode Yuri talks to our seavangelesse about the key concepts at the core of Cindicator, such as hybrid intelligence and its future global strategy. Yuri also explains what role does collective intelligence can place in decision-making on sasteads and why he decided to become advisor of Blue Frontiers. The talk also navigates through what intention represents for Yuri and how he became interested in concepts related to the mind and human psychology.





0:00 Intro
0:39 Yuri fall from a motorcycle
1:44 What is Cindicator
3:24 Cindicator on the Moscow Stock Exchange
4:16 Cindicator: 100.000 financial analysts & 160 countries
4:37 Hybrid intelligence
5:04 Cindicator’s App
5:50 Machine learning algorithms to correct human mistakes
6:39 Cindicator’s Global Strategy: creating the Global Brain
14:05: Hybrid intelligence on seasteads
17:42 Cindicator’s ICO selection process
20:56 Intention: Yuri’s trajectory in the realm of dreams, the human mind, psychology, the human brain and computers
35:27 Cindicator and Blue Frontiers
40:04 Blue Frontiers’ Insiders Access Week in Tahiti & French Polynesia
42:58 Yuri’s & Cindicator's role as an advisor of Blue Frontiers, the Varyon & the smart contract
47:11 Why contemporary world is so special
49:57 Advices for CEO’s doing ICO’s
53:29 Closing


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Bonus Episode: Randy Hencken Talks to Dorjee Sun

Bonus Episode: Randy Hencken Talks to Dorjee Sun

May 13, 2018

In this episode, Blue Frontiers co-founder and COO Randy Hencken speaks with Dorjee Sun, a social entrepreneur based in Singapore. His work for Carbon Conservation was the subject of the international feature documentary The Burning Season in 2008. He currently serves as Director of Who Gives, Carbon Agro, and Carbon Conservation.

Time Magazine recognized Sun as one of the Heroes of the Environment (2009) for his work as a carbon-trade broker.[14] In April 2009 he was honored by the African Rainforest Conservancy for his work.





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Engineering will Make us Free: Rutger de Graaf van Dinter - Episode 12

Engineering will Make us Free: Rutger de Graaf van Dinter - Episode 12

May 7, 2018


The guest of this episode of the Floating Architecture, Engineering & Design Series is Rutger de Graaf van Dinter, a civil engineer with a very special vision. In this conversation with our seavangelesse, Rutger speaks of how floating architecture can make human societies more resilient. Not only at an engineering level, but also in terms of better governance. Engineering will make us free! Free from bad governance is the conclusion of this podcast between Rutger de Graaf and Nathalie Mezza-Garcia.





1:02 Introduction to Rutger de Graaf and his PhD thesis

1:43 Harnessing complexity in sociotechnical systems

4:07 Transition management

4:36 Why building floating structures

5:00 Water management in the Netherlands

6:22 Algae fuels

6:45 Land scarcity

7:48 Sea level rise

8:33 Resilience and adaptation

10:48 Vulnerability of centralised systems

12:23 Decentralised water management

12:57 The robustness of decentralised and distributed systems

13:49 Achieving political independence with decentralised physical infrastructure

14:55 Governance on the commons

15:37 Autonomy and self-governance of utility infrastructure

16:58 Public/private partnerships on seasteads

18:00 The limitations of traditional legislation for technological innovation

19:20 Can engineering make us free?

20:10 The value of experimentation

22:20 Monitoring as a mechanism of control and learning

22:45 The weakening of the nation-state

25:10 Space at Sea, a project between Blue21 and Marine in the North Sea

26:10 City states on water

27:18 Floating Special Economic Zones  

29:40 The impossibly of knowledge

28:37 Learning from ecology

29:53 The failure of hierarchical management for organising societies

30:20 What has changed in the past ten years

32:58 The visionary municipality of Rotterdam

34:30 The municipality of Rotterdam  

34:20 The power of young innovators and the role of luck in success

36:30 The limitations of innovation steering by governments

37:20 The value of failures

39:38 A future full of seasteads

41:00 The impact of Joe Quirk’s book

43:29 Rutger childhood’s dreams

44:36 Indymo, water monitoring with underwater drones (Indymo)

48:33 Underwater sensors (algae monitoring, temperature, turbidity, salinity, nutrients…)

51:00 Rui Lima, the global expert in underwater drones for monitoring water quality

52:18 The intrinsic value of nature

54:25 How floating structures can help create new underwater ecosystems

56:45 Monitoring water in the Floating Island Project

58:30 Floating Futures Conference



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Startup Societies Consortium for Puerto Rico: Joseph McKinney - Episode 11

Startup Societies Consortium for Puerto Rico: Joseph McKinney - Episode 11

May 3, 2018


This episode is the second part of the podcast with Joseph McKinney, CEO of Nuhanse Network and the Startup Societies Foundation. The chat is focused on the Startup Societies Summit at the George Mason University, organized with the purpose of creating a consortium about how can blockchain technologies help rebuild Puerto Rico after the hurricane. Joe does a great job in describing what are the goals of the consortium, who are the speakers, the relevance of the Puerto Rican participation in the event, and the action-oriented focus of it. Joe also speaks of the open source legal system ULEX, by developed by Tom W. Bell, which won the Dragon’s Den competition in April 2018. You will also hear here why the promotion of experimentation of governance at the core of the Startup Societies Foundation and Blue Frontiers is so important, thanks to a conversation that Joe has with our Seavangelesse, Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, about self-organized commons and the relations that anarcho-capitalism and anarcho-communism have.






0:00 Introduction to the podcast and Joe McKinney

1:17 Startup Societies Foundation and Nuhanse Network

1:38 Institute for Competitive Governance

1:45 Part 1 of this podcast

2:38 Startup Societies Conglomerate

3:12 Sharing information across startup societies

3:45 Ethical principles for startup societies of the Startup Societies Conglomerate

4:37 Elysium, Startup Societies HQ in Malta

5:00 The role of the Startup Societies Foundation

5:55 The concept of startup society

6:10 Why is Joe not a Libertarian

7:40 Startup Society Summit about Puerto Rico at George Mason University #dontarguerebuild

8:55 Puerto Ricans in the consortium (Friends of Puerto Rico, Foundation for Puerto Rico, Colmena 66)

9:35 Greg Delaune, Joe Quirk, Lotta Morberg, Crystal Rose, Tom W. Bell, Adelle Brown, Rahul Chapra, Eduard Stringam, Derek McGill

10:40 Action-oriented project of the Startup Societies

11:15 Startup cities in Puerto Rico (Joe’s goal)

12:35 Consortium with Restart Week, Puertopians

13:32 Puerto Rican and Spanish-speaking participation in the consortium

15:08 Dragon’s Den competition won by Tom W. Bell’s ULEX, Institute for Competitive Governance

17:57 Open Source Journal for Startup Societies with Patri Friedman and Tom W. Bell

19:55 The role of geography in the ULEX

21:00 Restart Week West & Tribalize

21:35 Libertarian ecologists and communes

22:24 Nathalie’s PhD research about heterarchies, seasteading and the Floating Island Project  

27:27 Strategies for creating startup societies

33:57 Liberland

35:15 Negotiating and partnering with nations and governments

36:41 Is taxation theft?

37:41 Anarcho-capitalism and anarcho-communism

39:01 Self-organized institutions for collective action

40:40 Post-ideological world

40:50 Avoiding the tragedy of the commons

46:18 Goodbyes



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Startup Societies and Experimentation in Governance: Joseph McKinney - Episode 10

Startup Societies and Experimentation in Governance: Joseph McKinney - Episode 10

May 2, 2018


The guest of this podcast is Joseph McKinney, CEO of the Startup Societies Foundation and Nuhanse Network. In this insightful podcast, Joe explains what a startup society is and why it is so important to create localized experiments of governance, and how can exiting make a society more robust. Joe will take you through a journey of some of the startup societies that currently exist, such as Shenzen and Singapore. He also speaks about the town where he grew up, Celebration, Florida. In this conversation you will learn about the future of nation-states, new urbamism and will even have the chance to hear about Asgardia and space colonization. The Startup Societies Foundation is a strategic partner of Blue Frontiers.





0:40 Introduction

1:10 Joe’s version of utopia

1:56 What is a startup society

2:30 The role of exit in liberty

3:00 Anarcho-capitalism

4:00 Relation between startup society and micronations

4:39 Asgardia and space colonization

6:00  Joe’s ideal startup society

6:45 Celebration, Florida

8:20 New Urbanism

10:15 Shenzen and Singapore

10:40 The special sauce of Startup Societies

11:45 The future with startup societies and blockchain

13:40 The future of nation-states

15:40 Green cities and sustainable seasteads


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Freedom & Friedman’s Family Trajectory: David Friedman - Episode 09

Freedom & Friedman’s Family Trajectory: David Friedman - Episode 09

May 1, 2018

This episode of the Blue Frontiers Podcast is the first of the new Blue Frontiers Global format, where we will showcase friends of seasteading and Blue Frontiers. The guest of this episode is the legendary economist David Friedman, the father of Patri Friedman, the intelectual parent of seasteading. The recording of this chat took place in Belgrade, Serbia, at Liberticon 2018, thr conference organized by European Students for Liberty. In it our Seavangelesse, Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, had the chance to interview David about his ideas, his son Patri, his early career in physics, seasteading, anarcho-capitalism and even anarcho-communism.





00.50 Introduction to David Friedman’s tour across Europe

3:23 How David feels about the reception of his ideas

5:20 The origin of the name Varyon

5:57 How David feels about his son Patri

6:50 Private courts on seasteads

7:50 The importance of trial and error in forms of governance

10:10 The origin of Special Economic Zones

11:20 Anarcho-capitalism and anarcho-communism

13:40 Families as communist institutions

15:20 David’s upbringing of his children

14:25 The importance of no blueprints

16:50 Nathalie’s PhD research about David Friedman’s work and Elinor Ostrom’s

17:30 Seeing like a State and The Art of not Being Governed

22:30 Legal Systems very Different from Ours (David Friedman’s book)

23:07 Why Friedman would never run for president

23:48 David’s intellectual trajectory from classical economics to libertarianism

25:50 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, one of David’s favorite books

26:50 David’s early life as a physicist PhD student writing about economics

23:00 James Buchanan & Gordon Tullock

31:20 David early research positions, his wife

32:10 Compensation of enforcement

38:20 David’s PhD thesis on a mathematical understanding of elementary particles

38:50 Econophysics

39:50 Goodbye



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Climate Science and Seasteading Solutions: Bart Roeffen - Episode 08

Climate Science and Seasteading Solutions: Bart Roeffen - Episode 08

April 22, 2018

This episode is about climate change. The guest is the Lead Architect of Blue21, Bart Roeffen. In this talk, Bart explains from scratch the science behind climate change and coral bleaching. The podcast starts with the evolution of water management in the Netherlands and how the government of Netherlands does the very innovative selling of plots of water.  This podcast is great to understand how can seasteads help cope with the negative effects of global warming. 




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The Science of Large Floating Structures: Chien Ming Wang - Episode 07

The Science of Large Floating Structures: Chien Ming Wang - Episode 07

April 17, 2018

This episode is about engineering and materials of seasteads. The episode’s guest is Professor Wang Chien Ming. Professor Wang is the Blue Frontiers’ advisor in structural engineering of very large floating structures. In this very entertaining and insightful episode, Professor Wang describes many examples of already existing very large floating structures. Professor Wang and our seavangelesse also speak of the nanomaterials that can make seasteads, such as graphene oxide, one of Professor Wang’s subjects of research, and what implications it would have. 


1:14 Very Large Floating Structures

2:00 Stability on seasteads

2:30 Japanese 1 km floating structure

3:55 The speed of building floating structures

4:35 Coastal countries propensity to building floating structures

5:00 Floating tradition in Japan

5:40 Prices of floating structures

6:25 Examples of floating structures in the world: floating hotels, restaurants, docks, surfing docks, pools for surfing with natural waves, prisons, bicycle tracks, walking lane in China larger than Manhattan, floating golf course in Maldives, floating fuel containers, 1 km floating skyscraper in Japan

11:20 600 million floating forest project in Australia

22:20 Floating beach

24:00 Floating underwater bridge in Longyearbyen, Norway

31:45 Types of floating structures

33:25 Types of floating structures for seasteads (ponthoon and semi-submersible)

34:20 Station-keeping systems for seasteads

41:30 Professor Wang’s patent on Gill Cells for disturbing the buoyancy force

46:10 Tunnel liquid continuum Dampers

47:57 Carbon nanotubes and graphene oxide-reinforced concrete

53:17 Glass-fiber reinforced polymers

56:10 Professor Wang’s daily work

49:55 Properties of nano-reinforced concrete

59:07 Uses of nano composites on seasteads

1:06:30 Floating structure to tackle problems of the nexus

1:07:89 Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion

1:10:55 Wave energy

1:50:50 Fresh water lakes inside the ocean

1:15:00 Farming fish on the ocean

1:17:00 Underwater living



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Floating Real Estate: Karina Czapiewzka - Episode 06

Floating Real Estate: Karina Czapiewzka - Episode 06

April 8, 2018

 The guest of this episode is real estate expert Karina Czapiewska, from the architecture firm Blue21. This episode is the first of the Floating Architecture, Engineering and Design Series of the Blue Frontiers Podcast. In this episode Karina speaks about architecture and design details of the Floating Island Project. Karina answers questions crowdsourced from Blue Frontiers' Telegram channel (Blue Frontiers Community) and its Facebook page. These questions are related to the architecture and design of the Floating Island Project. Karina also explains the difference between floating structures and processes such as land filling. She points out how the real estate industry is slowly opening to building floating structures on the ocean. You'll love this podcast if you are interested in moving to a seastead one day and want to customize your house and neighbourhood as much as you want.

1:20 Vegan seasteads
2:31 Overfishing
3:39 Blue Frontiers Telegram channel
4:15 Cost of the Floating Island Project in French Polynesia
5:37 3D printing and manufacturing of seasteads
7:39 Building the Rotterdam Floating Pavillion
9:10 Building the Floating Island Project in French Polynesia
10:42 Creating habitats for fish and corals on seasteads and the influence on marine life on the design
12:53 Underwater gardens and windows
13:29 Underwater light pollution
15:17 If there was unlimited amount of money, what technological challenges there would be?
17:28 Melting of the ice caps
18:40 Tsunamis on seasteads?
20:39 Mooring systems
21:07 Solar analysis and location of the platforms
22:30 Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion OTEC
24:04 Eolic energy
24:40 Solar energy
25:59 Materials for the seastead
27:17 Size and connections of the platforms
29:40 Floating bridge in Thailand



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BONUS EPISODE: The Seavangelists Forbidden Winecast (Part One)

BONUS EPISODE: The Seavangelists Forbidden Winecast (Part One)

April 4, 2018

This winecast episode is the first part of a 5 hours chat between Joe Quirk, the Seavangelist of The Seasteading Institute and co-founder and managing director of Blue Frontiers and Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, the seavangelesse of Blue Frontiers.

This first part explains how our seavangelesse became so passionated about seasteading. This conversation will take you through Nathalie's journey from from fractals, painting and visual arts, to political science, to doing a PhD on complex systems studying the Floating Island Project, and then becoming our seavangelesse.